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# Discovery Call — Banco Pacífico (fake name) — 2024-11-14
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Attendees: Maria (SA), Jorge (CTO), Ana (DBA lead), Mike (infra mgr)
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45 min call, mostly Jorge talking
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---
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## Current State (what I could gather)
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- 3x Oracle 19c databases on Exadata X8M on-prem
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- largest one is ~4TB, OLTP workload (core banking txns)
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- second is ~1.2TB — reporting/analytics, runs batch overnight
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- third is smaller, ~300GB, "auxiliary services" — Jorge was vague here ??
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- GoldenGate replication between prod and DR site (San Jose DC)
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- Ana mentioned 99.95% availability SLA — "contractual, can't go lower"
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- PCI DSS compliance — mandatory, they process card transactions
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- ~~2 RAC nodes~~ correction: 3 RAC nodes on the big DB, 2 on the others
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## Licensing / Cost
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- current Oracle licensing spend ~$2M/year (Jorge said "around two million, maybe a bit more")
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- they have 8 processor licenses — BYOL eligible?? need to confirm with Oracle LMS
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- Mike mentioned support renewal coming up in Q2 — leverage point
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- also paying for GoldenGate licenses separately, didn't get the number
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## App Tier
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- WebLogic 14c — 6 bare metal servers (BM)
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- running core banking APIs + some internal portals
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- ~~Java 8~~ Java 11 actually, Ana corrected
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- MQ Series for async messaging between services
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- how tightly coupled?? need to dig into this
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- some .NET stuff too but "not critical" per Mike
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## Peaks & Performance
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- seasonal peaks — Black Friday is 3x normal traffic
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- "el último Black Friday casi nos tumba" — Jorge
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- need autoscaling story for this
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- end of month batch processing also heavy
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- latency requirements: <50ms for API responses (p99)
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## Team & Skills
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- 2 Oracle DBAs — Ana + one other person
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- NO cloud experience, "nunca hemos tocado la nube"
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- will need training / enablement plan
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- Ana seemed nervous about ADB automation — "qué pasa si algo sale mal?"
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- 6 app developers, mostly Java
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- 1 infra person (Mike) who does "everything else"
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## Timeline & Competition
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- el CTO quiere migrar en 6 meses ("Jorge: necesitamos estar en cloud antes de julio")
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- aggressive but not impossible if we start in Dec
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- phased approach? non-critical DB first??
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- COMPARING WITH AWS — they got an Aurora pitch last week
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- Jorge: "AWS nos ofreció créditos pero no sé si Aurora aguanta nuestro workload"
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- we need to counter with BYOL savings + Exadata compatibility story
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- also mention: ADB on Exadata = same engine, zero refactoring
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## Key Concerns (verbatim from Jorge)
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1. "No quiero downtime en la migración" — zero downtime migration, GG + ADB
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2. "¿Pueden garantizar el mismo performance?" — need benchmarks
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3. Cost — wants to see TCO comparison vs staying on-prem vs AWS
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4. Security — "el regulador nos audita cada trimestre"
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5. What happens to our GoldenGate investment?
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## My Notes / TODO
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- [ ] build TCO model: on-prem vs OCI (BYOL) vs AWS (Aurora)
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- [ ] architecture diagram: ADB-S with ADG for HA + cross-region DR
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- [ ] check if MQ Series → OCI Streaming is feasible or if they need to keep MQ
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- [ ] training plan for Ana's team — OCI certs? hands-on workshop?
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- [ ] ~~ask about Kubernetes~~ — Mike confirmed they're interested in OKE
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- [ ] get exact GoldenGate version — need 21c for full ADB integration
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- [ ] PCI compliance mapping — OCI compliance docs
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- [ ] set up reference call with similar banking customer?
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## Random bits
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- Jorge keeps mentioning "el board quiere resultados rápidos"
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- they had a failed Azure POC last year — "mala experiencia" — don't bring it up
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- Ana asked about autonomous features — "¿se parchea solo de verdad?"
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she seemed skeptical but interested
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- DR site is 500km away — FastConnect already in both DCs?? need to check
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- budget: Jorge hinted at $1.5M first year target — doable with BYOL
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---
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Next steps: follow-up call Thursday, bring pricing estimate + draft architecture
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